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sh4d0whunta · Jan 29, 2007, 08:26 AM // 08:26

i think u should be able to make more shady people ya know like u see those people who look dodgy but they arnt really bad people if u get to know them. but it would be awesome to see people with facial scars or if they wear no armour maybe u could get chest scars because in realy life well back then in some cultures scars would be like proof of strength or something

Angel Netherborn · Jan 29, 2007, 08:47 AM // 08:47

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Originally Posted by OhCrapLions

But for the most part, I think the proportions are appropriate for their classes. who is the warrior type in real life? Line backers, body builders, bullies, ring fighters. Mesmer? Magicians, artists, actors, none of those seem specifically "buff" to me, actually I think the mesmers look a little too beefy for the kind of people they are suppose to be. But I suppose being the idle of sensory pleasing would allow a number of proportions... I think the Dervish and Paragon class males should be a little bigger. Necromancers are proportionally skinny for the "emo" type they are.

Now that's a whole bunch of stereotypes that's just plain misleading... For warriors, you're only talking about the wrestling types. You don't think martial artists, swashbucklers, pirates, fencers, knights, samurai, and more are warriors? If you look at the history, I doubt you'll find much warriors that are as bulky as what we have in GW.

Same thing goes for the other professions. If we want to talk about realism, then there's absolutely nothing to constrain body figure. Like Norgu, what's wrong with a fat actor (we have lots in Hollywood)? What's wrong with ugly actors (it's not like there aren't any)? Is it impossible for an artistic person who also happens to like athletics?

And most importantly, my Necromancer takes offence at being labelled an "emo". Necromancers are usually emotionless and insensitive if you want to talk about stereotypes... have no idea where you got that weird idea from.

draxynnic · Jan 29, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

Err, Shing Jea armor is pretty conservative for female assassins, Paragon sunspear armor doesn't look unreasonable to me either on males. Certainly neither case is anything compared to the belly dancer outfits for eles. The odd thing about that is that, as others have said, there's so little difference between the two sets.

Even the Shing Jea set has the low neckline. It's certainly far more conservative than most Elementalist outfits, but it hardly fits my view of the Assassin type that wants as little pale flesh exposed to reveal their presence as possible. And on the male Paragon Sunspear... Are we looking at the same armour set? That's the worst of the lot! It even has painted-on nipples!

Guldur · Jan 29, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03

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Originally Posted by Ralli Pemirl

I posted this thread because the four guys and two girls I played WOW with won't buy GW after playing free trials because of the appearance of the players.

Lol, if they dont play guildwars because they cant have beards or dye their underwear, they should be playing The Sims.

darktyco · Jan 29, 2007, 02:24 PM // 14:24

/signed

The body types in GW are very limited and disappointing.

ToxicWasted · Jan 29, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37

Honestly, I tried, but I really couldn't give a shit about Gay Mesmers and Female's who don't wear much.

Cow Tale · Jan 29, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56

/signed to be able to make fat chicks that look like they work at mcdonalds.

Ralli Pemirl · Jan 29, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09

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Originally Posted by Guldur

Lol, if they dont play guildwars because they cant have beards or dye their underwear, they should be playing The Sims.

You're not being serious? =)

None of the people I'm referring to would even roll a human bank character on WOW. One of my friends did, and she LOVES the Guild Wars humans but only owns a Mac with OSX so can't play. (This girl MIGHT enjoy the Sims, but would NEVER admit it. The Sims seems boring to me, but real life friends rag on me for being a Sims-type sissy because I do things like play GW.) These guys enjoy killing humans with Undead, Orcs and the ugliest Trolls they could roll.

My husband just told me that one reason he hates WOW/GW human females is because they look slutty and unprofessional. He said maybe those who roll WOW humans care more about being pretty than getting good at the game, his theory for why they're the easiest to kill.

I think my original post is confusing because my group of friends is so diverse. My point was more diversity and options would appeal to a more diverse population. What's ideal to some isn't ideal to everyone.

A related thread is here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ht=la n+party

Aeon_Xin · Jan 29, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Ralli Pemirl

You're not being serious? =)

None of the people I'm referring to would even roll a human bank character on WOW. One of my friends did, and she LOVES the Guild Wars humans but only owns a Mac with OSX so can't play. (This girl MIGHT enjoy the Sims, but would NEVER admit it. The Sims seems boring to me, but real life friends on me for being a Sims-type sissy because I do things like play GW.) These guys enjoy killing humans with Undead, Orcs and the ugliest Trolls they could roll.

My husband just told me that one reason he hates WOW/GW human females is because they look slutty and unprofessional. He said maybe those who roll WOW humans care more about being pretty than getting good at the game, his theory for why they're the easiest to kill.

I think my original post is confusing because my group of friends is so diverse. My point was more diversity and options would appeal to a more diverse population. What's ideal to some isn't ideal to everyone.

A related thread is here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ht=la n+party

You hit the nail on the head. WoW does things that GW does not do, and visa versa. That's the way it goes. You'll probably not see an all encompasing game for a long time still. All online games cater to some certain specifics. GW is popular because it's not WoW, if you can't get over that, go play WoW, and come back here for PvP when your pride friends are offline.

Each online game out there caters to a certain market. Even Knight Online, for example, has a huge fan base, and it blows goatnuts(in my oninion).
Be happy you can dye your armor and that you have variable max armors/weapons. More than you get in a vast number of games that are still around and kicking.

If you're friends won't play a game with you based on the way a given character looks, well they don't sound like friends you need all that much, or like a game that you need to play all that much.

Your friend that bought a Mac, well, that's her fault, not GW.

I'd almost bet money your husband told you they look slutty just to get on your good side. He was afraid you'd see him just watching an ele dance, and get yelled at.(my sister is like that to her husband)

lightblade · Jan 29, 2007, 03:33 PM // 15:33

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Originally Posted by Ralli Pemirl

I meant to have these extra character creation options in the character creation screen, not in game.

Anyone see how involved character creation is in Oblivion? It's pretty cool.

We need conservative clothes options. More variety can't be bad, either.

Oblivion is a single player game. GW is an online game. Adding in more details to character creation not only consumes more server resource, but also bandwidth required to play the game. Currently, the recommended connection for GW is already broadband connection. A few people can play on dial-up. If you're suggests are really added, that'll require double the bandwidth, or it'll take twice as long to load into a zone.

xxSilhouette · Jan 29, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Personally I'm not that worried about how "barbie-ish" my characters look. I'll agree that many of the face/hair options in combination with certain armors make a character look like a barbie, but come on, this is a role-playing game.

You have to take into account that supposedly online games are MOSTLY a guy thing, and also are mostly targeted at a certain age range. Well most males in that age range would prefer an attractive or even slutty if you will, character. If they took the time into making all these cute make up options and stuff, then that would be great for girls who are into that, but I wouldn't want to even take the time to do that myself, I enjoy playing and killing bad dudes, I'm not horribly worried about if my eyeshadow matches my lip gloss kinda thing, because that is for REAL life, i worry about my make up when i go to classes in the morning, and guild wars is my time to not worry about that type of thing.

I agree that there is limited options, and it seems to get worse with each chapter, it would be great if they had more face/hair style options, and I also wish i could make my assassin gain a few pounds. But besides that I think everything is fine the way it is.

Ralli Pemirl · Jan 29, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by Aeon_Xin

I'd almost bet money your husband told you they look slutty just to get on your good side. He was afraid you'd see him just watching an ele dance, and get yelled at.(my sister is like that to her husband)

My husband is very honest, and likes the shape of the humans on WOW and GW both. My shape is kind of like the WOW females. He was referring to the armor.

Aeon_Xin · Jan 29, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30

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Originally Posted by Ralli Pemirl

My husband is very honest, and likes the shape of the humans on WOW and GW both. My shape is kind of like the WOW females. He was referring to the armor.

"My husband just told me that one reason he hates WOW/GW human females is because they look slutty and unprofessional."

Hm, think out your posts a little better maybe?

Ouchie · Jan 29, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03

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Originally Posted by Maxiemonster

Oh well, some people are attracted to fat chicks, I guess it's fine to give them what they want

Personally, I'll stick with the models, I roleplay a hero, and heroes aren't fat.

Agreed -

it's fantasy not real life and making a fat character makes me wonder how she would deal with all the running around

New Skill

Heart attack - if enemy target is overweight and kites for 10 seconds or more they colapse and can not be healed or move for 2 minutes.

I want my characters to look nice and If i want real I can go for a walk

Titan Chrae · Jan 29, 2007, 05:08 PM // 17:08

Personally...I like the "slutty" look of the GW females. My GF is probably going to switch to the Elona Ele Armor because we both like it so much.
As long as it doesn't step over the boundries and introduce nudity so I have to stop my kids from playing.

< ------ On the other hand, I made the ugliest male monk I could make just so I could be different. I agree that more choices is good.

Aeon_Xin · Jan 29, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

A note about the fantasy Genre.

Go look at every cover of every fantasy book in a large book store. Romance books aren't the only ones that use cleavage/tight fitting clothing.

I think GW did better job than most games in using the archtypes established on those books, and ties in the armor/character per occupation very nicely.
You also have to consider, your character, as far as PvE goes, is the one hero, and there are rarely ugly/fat hero's, in any literature/movies.(I didn't say never, don't go fanatical and list references)

I didn't want to have to fall back on this, but some people are thick. I've heard it alot there will not be any major upgrades to existing chapters. Maybe the next chapter will have dyable underwear and jewelry an makeup and all that. They ain't fixin' nuthin' that ain't broke.(even then they're not fixing some of it)

So learn to live with it, move on, or find new friends that aren't so damned picky.

*
The only thing I miss is actual robes, but seeing the way capes move, I'm glad they didn't try robes.(not counting dervish armor here, I think it looks more like really heavy fabric than something a classic DnD mage would wear)

Ralli Pemirl · Jan 29, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

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Originally Posted by Aeon_Xin

A note about the fantasy Genre.

Go look at every cover of every fantasy book in a large book store. Romance books aren't the only ones that use cleavage/tight fitting clothing.

I think GW did better job than most games in using the archtypes established on those books, and ties in the armor/character per occupation very nicely.
You also have to consider, your character, as far as PvE goes, is the one hero, and there are rarely ugly/fat hero's, in any literature/movies.(I didn't say never, don't go fanatical and list references)
wear)

I think you hit the nail on the head, and my husband agrees. I love fantasy/science fiction, and maybe just choose to read authors who like using realistic characters. My husband laughed, maybe Aeon_Xin's point is GW is the slutty romance novel version of MMO's.

The more I think about it, the more I realize, I'm going back to WOW. Thanks.

stuntharley · Jan 29, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

/not signed

this is just a waste of an update, why not put HA back to 8v8 in stead of this

lightblade · Jan 29, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by Ralli Pemirl

I think you hit the nail on the head, and my husband agrees. I love fantasy/science fiction, and maybe just choose to read authors who like using realistic characters. My husband laughed, maybe Aeon_Xin's point is GW is the slutty romance novel version of MMO's.

The more I think about it, the more I realize, I'm going back to WOW. Thanks.

rage quit to WoW? Seems like we get these posts everyday, and I'm already getting used to it. You can go play WoW, just remember not to neglect your husband.

Also, this is to all people that make this kind of posts. Just because Anet read fansite forums, doesn't mean you can abuse it this way to get their attention and change the game the way YOU wanted.

Aeon_Xin · Jan 29, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by Ralli Pemirl

I think you hit the nail on the head, and my husband agrees. I love fantasy/science fiction, and maybe just choose to read authors who like using realistic characters. My husband laughed, maybe Aeon_Xin's point is GW is the slutty romance novel version of MMO's.

The more I think about it, the more I realize, I'm going back to WOW. Thanks.

No offense, but good riddance.
Now that she's gone mods, Lock/delete this topic?